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Harvey Mushman
9 Jan 2024 8:09 am
  
94 posts
Zeets2 » 07 Jan 2024, 1:09 pm » wrote: Well, Harvey, I think it's time you took off those rose-colored glasses with which you envision Castro's revolution, where you apparently see non-existent "enormous social gains" that you think were a "good example" that the US should follow.  And you seem to believe that the US did not have just cause to cease diplomatic relations with Cuba, regardless of their kidnapping of Americans, their confiscation of foreign assets, his refusal to allow Cuba to hold new elections as he promised, and despite his torture and executions of 600 people from the Batista regime.  Yet you still think the US wasn't justified by our response despite our being one of the first to publicly recognize the Castro government as legitimate, which gave them every opportunity to follow the path of the free market and capitalism, and you can't understand why we broke diplomatic ties with him.

Funniest of all, you see no comparison whatsoever to the devastating condition of cities like San Francisco, Chicago, LA, Philly, Newark, Detroit, and Baltimore, all who have held a stranglehold on state and local governments that continually promote every radical socialist policy that comes down the pike. 

You may not support the DNC, but you can't deny that their policies are far more socialistic than any the GOP ever supports, AND that they've failed miserably in every one of those cities.  One day I may provide you with the socialist reasons that they became deindustrialized, and it was NOT due to their following of capitalism, and were NOT incapable of counteracting those socialist pathologies.

And a good day to you too, sir.
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Zeets2: "Well, Harvey, I think it's time you took off those rose-colored glasses with which you envision Castro's revolution, where you apparently see non-existent 'enormous social gains' that you think were 'good examples" that the US should follow.'"

The Cuban Revolution is not "Castro's revolution" any more than the American Revolution was "Washington's revolution." No nation can be revolutionized behind its back. Revolutions require the support and active participation of a substantial percentage of the society's population being revolutionized. In colonial America, one-third of the population supported the counter-revolution of 1775, while 94% of Cubans supported the Cuban Revolution, which began in 1953. Today, virtually all Cubans still support their revolution - the Cuban Revolution. 

Zeet2's virtually solo denial of Cuba's highly well-documented social gains is not something I have control over. They are achievements verified and reported by several mainstream sources, including the CIA via its CIA World Factbook. 

Zeets2: "And you seem to believe that the US did not have just cause to cease diplomatic relations with Cuba, regardless of their kidnapping of Americans, their confiscation of foreign assets, his refusal to allow Cuba to hold new elections as he promised, and despite his torture and executions of 600 people from the Batista regime. 

I've not stated nor suggested that the U.S. did not have, from its perspective, just cause to sever diplomatic relations with Cuba following the ouster of the Batista regime. The Eisenhower administration would have been remiss had it not done so, for, like all presidential administrations, its primary function was to protect the capitalist class's interests and uphold and perpetuate the capitalist system. The U.S. government was no less aware than I am now that the Cuban Revolution constituted the threat of a good example and was, therefore, duty-bound to do all it could to crush the revolution. And, as the U.S. government's deposing of Mosaddegh, Goulart, Arbenz, Allende, Bishop, Lumumba, Allende, Salazar, and many others demonstrates, the U.S. capitalist state has no regard for peaceful revolutions, either. 

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